---Now available for free download, GUYVE live on KPSU radio, portland, oregon. 12-29-06__ http://archive.kpsu.org:8080/node/1792
---48 Different GUYVE songs now available for download at www.myspace.com/guyve !!!!!
While cleaning out a bunch of old storage boxes we were surprised to find two 30 count, un-opened boxes of our first cd release; Baltash, Panache, & Flying Colors(1996). There is some confusion surrounding the 'true' story behind this album, so we felt this being the 10th anniversary(this week) of the recording of our first 2 piece, instrumental CD, it would be high time to give the full account.
Summer 1995. 16 years old. GUYVE was already 'known' in our small town of 3000. Jonah was approached by the high school geography teacher and was handed an address of a recording studio. The alleged studio was housed in an old gymnasium in the middle of some old farming community gone bust many a year ago. Our teacher stumbled across this place while doing personal research into Montana’s past, and one of the few inhabitants of the town was an audio engineer who had a recording studio. This info trickled from our teacher to us, and over the course of a season or two we solidified a recording date.
On August 19th, 1996 we were set to record our first professional album. pretty exciting times being that we were entering our senior year of high school and were recording rock and roll.
The 5 hour drive from Wolf Point took us southwest into the guts of Montana to a place called Moccasin. If you happen across a large fold out Montana map you’ll find moccasin right in the middle where the crease of the page is partially covering it up. We almost didn’t see it when we drove by it. Old grain elevators and a green road sign bearing the towns name let us know we were there. We were told to look for the tallest building in town(not too hard) and sure enough when we completed the maze of gravel and bumps we arrived at an old gym.
Not a sound..anywhere except grasshoppers and wind. "Hello?" nothing. the door was locked, we walk around the outside of the place which was being overtaken by 7-8 foot tall weeds, grains and flowers. Many of the windows are broken out. There is no sign of life, anywhere. What did our teacher get us into?
After sitting on the front steps for awhile a figure appeared down the dirt road. A man approached us, dressed from head to toe in white clothing, like a painter’s suit. His name was David Arnott. This was our man. We were lead into the rustic school building and given a short tour. Rolling tobacco left over from thousands of rolled cigarettes littered every flat surface. Graffiti and psychedelic murals engulfing the entryway. It was a typical old square gym. Noticeably smaller than a standard basketball court with a stage on one end and a ceiling that was maybe 2-3 stories high. Downstairs, there were old locker rooms which had been converted to living spaces. Men’s lockers were now shelves of thousands of records, recording equipment, tape reels, mixing boards, consoles, it was all here. This room appeared to be the golden core of this otherwise dilapidated, Alfred Hitchcock-like environment. The men’s shower area was modified with a bunk and included minimal kitchen facilities. There was no running water. Water needed to be pumped into a bucket which was used to rinse-flush the toilets once a day (but he preferred we just go outside). Eventually, we unloaded all of our equipment and set up on the stage at the far end of the gym to capture more echo. Louder,.. bigger sound... we were thinking.
As the mics were being placed, we had more time to explore this time capsule of a building. “Class of 53'”. Marvin was here, or so it says. The most archaic and simple examples of the tag. Billy 'hearts' Gretchen. There were storage closets that were still completely stocked with vintage school stuff from the 40’s and 50’s. Cheerleading outfits, play equipment, crazy old shit. It was like everybody had just up and left, or been whisked away by the rapture. Which makes me think, maybe the rapture has already occurred. Anyway, it had been empty for 35 years before being purchased at an auction for 800 bucks.
After sound check (something new to us) we recorded “Baltash” in about 7 hours, tracking 9 songs. I don’t recall much about the actual recording of any songs except one particular (or is it peculiar?) visual. Rocking out, I happened to look up at one of the huge busted out windows and I noticed that there was a sheet of plastic that had loosened it’s self from the window and was being blown outward. I thought that maybe it was our huge sound trying to escape out of the building. That’s about all I remember of recording.
Later that night we were invited to celebrate a local villager’s birthday with Mr. Arnott at a different house. I think that there were a total of 7 or 8 inhabitants in this town of about a 50-75 run down houses. It was an artist commune called home by a handful of book writers, painters, philosophers and of course, an audio engineer. Odd characters, but good people. We were offered rum cake. After explaining to us how they could hear us rocking all day at the gym they asked if we had listened to much Metallica.
That night we stayed in moccasin, expecting at least a floor to sleep on somewhere. That’s exactly what we got. The gym floor. Our engineer explained that he'd be sleeping out in the field if we needed him and left out a side door on the stage, vanishing into the blackness of the wheat fields that surrounded the town.
The next morning, early, Cam did a couple bass overdubs and then we received a quick unmixed copy of it all. We owed only 100 bucks. With tape in hand, we cruised 5 hours back to Wolf Point.
Within a few months we received the final master mix. There were mixed emotions. The first track, Isle of the Damned, was missing an overdubbed flange effect. We thought it was a pretty cool sounding effect at the time. On the second track, The Valley, Mr. Arnott had added a foreign, completely new piano line that we had no idea existed. The process to get this far had taken so long that we were pretty frustrated with it. Everyone that listened to it, however, seemed to like the piano line, and eventually we even thought it added a certain emotion to the song so we decided to let it stay.
Due to some unbridled teenage motivation we decided to go the full distance with this recording and get a cd package for it. After a small co-signed loan and a few summer jobs, we managed to print 570 copies of Baltash, Panache, & Flying Colors in black and white with one color on the actual cd. I remember receiving the 5 decent sized boxes of CDs. Fuck yeah. 17 years old and producing and distributing our own cds.
CD DETAILS>>>The name of the cd originated from a word salad during an lsd experience. What was trying to be said during the trip was balderdash, panache and flying colors. Just one of those catchy loop type thoughts that starts running through your mind, repeating endlessly because its got nice iambic pentameter. Basic translation,....balderdash means nonsense, thinking of balderdash as Baltash is nonsense in itself. Panache means with style, or showy. flying colors; well, if lsd is involved it means something but if some sort of challenge is involved it means to do very well. sooooo...fucking off in style and succeeding=Baltash, Panache, & Flying Colors.
Track 1, Isle of the Damned, was our test of the 3 volume dynamics in the world of music: forte, double forte, and maximum forte. If you ever get to hear it live it will slowly crescendo your whole body into a state of being that demonstrates how one not only hears music, but feels it. The name came from the nickname of Tasmania.
Track 2, the Valley, was originally titled ‘the trippy song’. This song to us is like rubber soul to the beatles; A stage of development inspired by the first time use of marijuana. One of the first songs written by GUYVE under the influence of herb. This one really opened a whole new world for us. Later named the Valley after a hill we smoked on.
Track 3, Non Compos Mentis, is quite possibly the first 2-piece song we ever wrote together. Metal riffs. Not much else to say about this one. The name was taken from a windows 95 word thesaurus search for ‘crazy’.
Tracks 4-5, Tedium, shows a somewhat poppy side to GUYVE. Enjoy, it may be the last pop you hear from us. We think its the perfect skate video song. On the CD it is listed as I and II. When the CD was in mastering, the track numbers were set to mark every time there was a quiet spot; the between song silence. Track 4, Tedium I, and track 5, Tedium II, are supposed to be one track. We had to change the name on the package when we found out what was wrong. Once again the name was taken from the thesaurus searching ‘bored’.
Track 6, Dirt Set, originated while we were still a 4 piece with vocals. There may be a demo somewhere with an old vocal track. It was also initially misprinted on the CD as Dirt Sex. This startled our parents a little. Luckily it was only on a few test prints and we had time to change it. But if you ever find a copy that lists track six as 'dirt sex'...we'd buy it back from you for whatever ya want. We believe the name came from our old singer, Wyatt Fettig. He had constructed a rough tape package for the song and the picture on front resembled a cross that had been shoved into the ground, or dirt set.
Track 7, Fetter, is our unofficial, official song. Our band was originally named GYVE but due to poster error we became GUYVE. If you can find GYVE in a dictionary it defines it as “bonded in fetters:shackles”. The name just sounded good and had a nice backstory. When we first wrote the song it was too hard to play. Somehow we had constructed a monster that we couldnt perform. The cd recording was the first time we played it without messing up, and we had been practicing and playing it for several months.
Track 8, Wrath of Braz, once again deals with a word salad emanating from lsd. Briz Braz was an imagined arch enemy of GUYVE that, how can we say this.., didnt like the fact we were smoking weed. Based off of a former Wolf Point drug officer with the same initials, the song tells the story of the hunt, chase, and escape. Great fucking song.
Track 9, Meld, is another transition point for GUYVE. Really simple structure: verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo. The name comes from what we thought it sounded like when we played it. Sounds we weren’t normally creating were combining to make new soundscapes. The solo at the end is humbling is some way. The whole album before that solo is blairing loud, and then a certain calm and understanding prevails. We planned on Meld being the last track on the album.
Track 10, And Then There Was One, was supposed to be the first track on the album. Once again there are demos from the 4 piece GUYVE that have vocals for this track. We love godheadSilo and this song originally was a bass guitar and drums song in tribute to them. For those not in the know, Cam played a wicked bass guitar from 93-95 before switching to primarily guitar. Bass distortion and crashing cymbals, fuck yeah. Every so often Cam will tune up his bass and GUYVE will rock this one out live.
Album Info and Art>>>The pictures on the album are from various places. The front cover design was found in a book titled Astounding Optical Illusions. Cool “borrowed” library book to trip out on. The design is called 'the chrysanthemum', and it later inspired a GUYVE song of the same name. The back picture is from another lsd experience. It is being taken by someone lying on there back on the ground. Two other people are standing above on top of huge hay bails, holding a hoola hoop. The white dots are the first snowfall of the year in an otherwise pitch black, midnight sky. When the camera flash went off every snowflake in the sky reflected a flash as powerful as a glare in a mirror. The inside picture of the creepy statue head was taken at the Wolf Point cemetery at dusk during the fall. no disrespect, but we are not really sure whose grave it is. It is just a piece of our hometown that people who live there would know about. The color of the cd was a totally random decision. Why purple...it was almost blue, but in a last minute change of mind purple was chosen instead. That’s all I remember. Don’t bother writing to the address on the inside notes. But if yer ever in Wolf Point go check out the location, and while there go across the street to Tasty Freeze for a Big T Burger.
So that’s our 10th anniversary special. As a sentimental 10th year celebration we are making available the original Baltash recording. This isn’t the cd version that you already/should have. This is the unmixed master we received the day we left the studio. All the flange effects are there, none of the piano parts are there, and all of the raw noise and energy are there. No compression, No EQing. We like to call it Baltash, Panache, & Flying Colors.....Naked. The way it really sounded. It is now available. Feel free to contact us.
Thanks for your time and continued support. Keep in touch and on the lookout for new GUYVE music this winter.
These people are considered persons of interest within the GUYVE realm...any info on these people should be forwarded to us. the names are inserted here for hopes of a random GOOGLEr. Cary Brandal Ben Conlon fred maibach III or Frederick Elvin Maibach III Ryan O'Shaunesy Chad Garfield Jockton or Jokton Schmit or Schmidt Chad Berntson Nate Durham Reese and Sheri Munson
GUYVE INTERVIEW WITH DOWNTUNE DESPONDENCY, WEBZINE BASED IN AUSTRALIA, CONDUCTED FEBRUARY 2006.
1. Cheers fellas and thanks for joining me in this interview. Let's kick it off with an introduction and brief history of Guyve.
JONAH - Thanks for taking your time to ask about GUYVE. 1992, Wolf Point, Montana, junior high, my basement. I played percussion in the school band and I had a good friend, Justin Loendorf, in that class that not only played a wicked trombone but also had an old epiphone guitar. Over Christmas break that year Justin packed his guitar and 10 watt amp to my house and we played as many tunes from Nirvana Nevermind as we could and wrote our first original as well. Justin knew Cam from school and introduced him to me in PE. Cam was thrown in on bass and we could play a few more Nirvana songs, a little better. We basically learnt all the songs in Guitar World every month for a year or so and finally came up with the name GUYVE in late 1993. In 1994- 1995 we had a couple of different singers that made the band a full on 4 piece but in late 1995 differing interests lead GUYVE to become the 2 piece that it is today. Like i said, we grew up in Wolf Point, Montana which is a small 2000 person town on an Indian reservation, we then moved off to college in Missoula, Montana before we relocated to Portland Oregon, where we are now. In missoula, besides recording crazy amounts of experimental tracks, Cam received his massage therapist license and i received a bachelors degree in psychology with a minor in sociology. That's the short history, or at least what i can recall from the last decade. (puff)
2. Who came up with the band name Guyve and why did you choose it to represent your band?
JONAH - Ok...late 1993 we were supposed to play our first 'show' for a bunch of drunk high school kids at somebody's garage. We knew some NIN and a lot of Nirvana and Alice in Chains(thank you GUITAR WORLD). We didn't have a solid name yet and we wanted to go the whole rock and roll distance by making a poster. We commissioned an older kid in art class to go at it with complete freedom, but first we needed a name. Picking up an old dictionary in the art dept. we did the typical throw your finger down on a page technique to get a couple different possibilities. I can't remember any of the other names but BOHEMIAN and GYVE were a couple of cool ones, so we went with Bohemian Gyve. To make things weirder, you cant find the word GYVE in many dictionaries anymore. Ok..the older art student is supposed to have the posters done and given to us later that day and when we get them he totally left out Bohemian and misspelled Gyve as Guyve. Posters were done, didn't have any time to correct them or redo them..we became GUYVE. I still have a copy of that poster. I don't know if it truly represents our band ....maybe in the way its unfamiliar... like you say. "what does GUYVE mean" . I say... "I don't know, what do you think it means". The name represents us because you really don't know what you are listening to when you hear us. Its out there.
CAM - GUYVE is a mispelled, non-conotational word. It is pronounced "G-why-v". Total Balderdash.
3. Soooooooo it's fairly obvious you boys like yer weed. How would you say pot has an affect on or inspires your band? Is Guyve best to be listened to whilst stoned?
JONAH - (puff) A lot of people think herb smoking is childish, juvenile, something you grow out of, etc, etc. Fuck that!!! To me it is a sacrament. Not that i sit around and meditate or chant or whatever, but I'll guarantee you that a little sacrament right before the show goes a long way. A little sacrament with stiff coffee in the morning, a little sacrament with the bike ride to work, a little sacrament as i partake in this interview. Whatever. I don't overthink herb, but the herb helps me to think things over. Its effect on the band, or the sound of the band, or both is evident the first few minutes of any GUYVE show. You will know we are there, and that we are serious about being there. Like nothing you've experienced before..and, "hey, did that drummer just take a rip behind his drums?!!" GUYVE is most certainly best listened to stoned. But the most sober of our friends says that he feels like he is high as hell when he watches us play live. The sounds we make and the volume with which we produce them radiates a somadelic experience. The physical sensations elicit psychedelic wonderings and I feel a lot of our audience, stoned or not, get some sort of insight out of a GUYVE show. It's an experience.
CAM - Marijuana is embedded deep in us. We smoke a lot of grass. It's our hope to lessen the negative social stigma associated with pot smokers. Every one of our shows is a celebration of the herb, so it's highly recommended that you smoke pot before, during, and after our shows.
4. Share with us any details on CDs and merch you have available and where the readers can locate it.
JONAH - We record ourselves a lot. a lot, a lot. Since 1994 we have 'released' 11 different GUYVE compilations. Now we're not talking slick, full color, shrink wrap 'released', we mean...make a cool tape that we want to listen to in our cars, show our friends, make copies for them if they like it. That sums up a GUYVE release. We don't work too hard on our promoting. But the stuff is there. We record, mix, produce, copy, distribute all on our own. If there was a ladder of DIY, we would be the guys at the top of the ladder building a new rung. We have all 11 releases and the artwork for them stored on the old 'puter and when we need to make a copy, we print it out, burn the disc and do a little cutting and folding. We don't make it till you order it. We don't push our CDs too much either, if people want them, we'll sell them one. Basically, we are going to write and record new stuff no matter who is or isn't buying it. The music is a bigger motivator than the possible sale. If people really want to hear some stuff they can just contact us at our myspace and we'll send out some sort of demo sampler. I'm also thinking about getting on ebay to start wheelin and dealin the GUYVE merch. Just set up a few pages for CDs and shirts. Then people can just pay with credit card and that whole mess will be taken care of. I don't know..keep ebayin GUYVE. (puff)
CAM - We've got like 10 albums of material. All have varying degrees of recording quality, and some are better that others, but all are part of a whole. You gotta contact us if you want some GUYVE tunes.
5. How would you describe yourselves? Any particular genre you like to put Guyve under?
JONAH - Hardest question of all. I said a lot in the previous paragraph or two about our sound but the only way to truly understand what we are trying to do is it see it live. We are two piece, drums and guitar. We sound like a 5 or 6 piece. Loud! By far the number one most heard comment after a show.'that was loud'. New words have been spawned in the process..."GUYVE loud". But it's not just that. Cam has some old ass vintage equipment that helps the overall sound. I think late 60s EARTH amplifier. He uses 4 15 inch speakers in the bass set-up, even though he uses a guitar. His effects are old as hell too. Not stuff you can just go buy anymore. For drums I play a classic 66 Ludwig Ringo Star kit. But I've modified it to be a little more monstrous. If Ringo was dead, he'd be rollin in his grave. We don't have any vocals. I guess the music can say a whole lot more when there is nothing said. When we first became the 2 piece nobody would book us. This was before white stripes and hella and big business. They said we needed a bass player and some vocals. We just kept doing what we wanted to do and within 5 or 6 years the market caught up to us and we were getting all kinds of shows, but they claimed we were trying to be the heavy metal white stripes. (puff). GodheadSilo was a two piece that was around before us. We love their shit. Go buy it all. Two piece bass and drums from Fargo North Dakota. What's the question again???
CAM - If you think you might like instru-metal acid punk, then you'll probably like GUYVE. Disclaimer: WE DON'T DO POP!
6. So what else inspires Guyve's music besides the wacky tabacky? Where do you draw your inspiration from?
JONAH - Well of course there is hash, coffee, psylocybin, sound. I've got a really hot girlfriend. I really feel creatively energized when I see other artists doing something I would have never thought of. I don't know if it's competition or a driving urge to help the process of pushing the envelope but I get a little tingly when i see or hear something I really enjoy. There is a band here in Portland named JESUS BURGER. Fucking great! When I first saw them they were a sort of communal artistic squad. That sounds wrong but anyway..they played a show with us in Olympia Washington and as everyone was anticipating the first song, JESUS BURGER instantly began to thrash and play and sing their fucking hearts out....but they did it all in mime. no sound, no music, no vocals. They did that for at least 3 minutes and then went into the rest of their noise filled set. Might not seem like much but that silent set opener fucked me up and made me re think what music was, or wasn't!!!
CAM - Balderdash, sublimination, frustration, stress, evolution, Amerikanization, you know, fun stuff.
7. You guys have been together for 10 years? That's a long time, has there ever been a time where you guys have lost inspiration? Has Guyve been the only band you guys have worked on within this time or do you have side projects?
JONAH - GUYVE has been the only project that i have dedicated my long term time to. I dabble in the recording process a little and I like to try to record different artists and different styles. I released a pretty decent album for a folk singer in Missoula, Montana. I don't think I have ever lost inspiration. I've got a life long plan going on here. There was a time when Cam lived in San Diego for a year or two and another time when I was in school while he worked elsewhere...we are just really comfortable with our music and our abilities. We have an agreement that no matter what, we will always eventually write and record more music. We're not in a hurry and there are no dead lines so we are just patient with our abilities. When we're not actively practicing and performing we send demos through the mail, keep up on new riffs and sounds. It's nice being comfortable in that situation, I think a lot of bands put stress on getting things done, or becoming big or whatever, by a certain time (puff) not at camp GUYVE.
CAM - No side projects as of yet. Just solo stuff. I've never really lost inpiration, but I try to find new inspirations through change.
8. Portland continues to spit out these super dooper bands for me to interview! Just how killer is the scene over there? Ok how killer is the weed? Maybe I'll stop by for a toke in December haha!
JONAH - The scene is huge. Sooooooo many venues and sooooo many bands. I don't know what its like anywhere else really so I don't know how to relate it. Amazing music community, great music equipment shops, awesome local CD shops. The attitude seems to be really laid back and from what I've seen you can basically do almost anything on stage and people will accept it. Performance art is huge here. Crazy assed jumpin disco kareoke bands, techno DJs spinning to people getting peirced with skewers and being hung from the ceiling from piercings with chains. Crazy, crazy shit. The scene encompasses more than just the music aspect. Just soo much art of all calibers and styles. Inspiring in itself. As for the herb..support organic local farmers. We are halfway between Humboldt county and Vancouver, BC but it seems like everyone is still smokin fresh local produce. I prefer it that way. Although Humboldt does have a great variety that can't be grown anywhere else. Stop by for a toke anytime. The city of Portland is putting an initiative on the ballot to decriminalize pot in city limits. If you are 21 and over you can legally possess an ounce. POT-LAND, OREGON!!!
CAM - There's some real crap, but, for the most part, there's also some world class musicians here. Lotta competion, so you've gotta be good.
9. What's a typical gig like for you guys? What bands do you dig playing alongside?
JONAH - A typical gig is usually after an 8 hour day of work. We always defer playing order to the other bands. Our motto is "if you were late, you missed it" or ,"if you left early, you missed it." Our set is usually short unless the sound guy specifically requests a longer one. We've found that the quicker you can get on and off the stage the happier everyone is. If your set is supposed to be 40 minutes, plan out a mindbending 35 minute set and get the night rollin. We never pause between songs..full on aural onslaught. Most people don't know when a song ends or begins but that's alright with us. We like to play with bands that share the drive and love of music. FACEPILOT is out there promoting like crazy, creating and mass producing posters, SKYSCRAPER is constantly planning shows and promoting events that they aren't even playing at, PARANAUT networks like mad getting posters out and making new friends (just puffed a spleef with William the other night, he has a serious doom CD collection), CIRCLES INTO LINES are just driving, in your face schizophrenia. These are just a couple examples..there are hundreds of bands.
CAM - Our last gig involved me going to a copwatch class beforehand, then running to the club to unload equipment, then running to someones house to smoke weed, and then making it back to the club just in time to play our best set yet. I like doing shows with bands and artists of all types who offer a variety of styles and sounds to a nights worth of performance.
10. What's your thoughts on Myspace in relation to spreading the word on your band? Many people supporting your work thus far?
JONAH - Myspace has been great to us. We've played so many different places in the last decade or so and have met so many people. Myspace has made it possible for all of our old fans to catch up with us. Every week we are getting messages about people seeing us somewhere back when. All positive memories. It's helping us to collect our GUYVE family into one spot and disseminate all the info at once. Support for GUYVE has grown since Myspace has been up. It's free, it's useable, it's got a short web address, and it plays mp3s. DIY. We'd make a 'real' web site but we're musicians not web designers. GUYVE is out there if you want to find it.
CAM - Myspace is great for networking and meeting artists and people you might not otherwise run into. It's also a super time suck.
11. Where ya headed for 2006? What's the big plan?
JONAH - 2006 more of the same....experimental house recordings, loud psychedelic shows, envelope pushing. Cam is moving in with some other local musicians which I'm sure is going to do shitloads for his playing. I'm moving into a bigger house that will be more suited to the recording process. We are toying with the idea of getting out of the basement studio and getting into a pro studio for a possible double A side 10". I don't know what the hell 2006 is throwing our way. The big plan is to keep playing no matter what. Even if we just record the squeaky faucet with the sound of a crow cawing over it, it will be GUYVE doing their thing. And that's all that matters.
CAM - To hell. The big plan is happening.
12. Plug all websites relevant to Guyve.
JONAH - I would just say type GUYVE into google and see what happens. There is some guy out there named Guyve and there is some japanamation character named Guyver.
www.myspace.com/guyve .....other than that..check www.hightimes.com occasionally and keep lookin at ebay for GUYVE. It'll come.
13. The last words belong to you...
JONAH - (puff) Thanks to Downtune Despondency for lettin us get our word out. I've said enough, I'm dry mouth. (puff)
CAM - Smoke weed in public places. Be a little discreet and then go for it.